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Welcome back to One Winning Pod, where two brothers faced off if you weren't listening

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to the broadcast.

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Maybe you didn't know that.

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But if you listen to the broadcast, you really, really do that.

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And yet again, John Harbaugh wins being his brother for the third time on Monday Night

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Football on the West Coast in L.A. at SoFi, a stadium that was used just the night before

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the Eagles-Rams game.

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Pretty wild to have two games in two days at the same stadium, something in the NFL.

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I feel like it's pretty unique.

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Probably only ever happens at MetLife as well.

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But very cool to see the Ravens get that win, particularly after giving up 10 points early.

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Yeah.

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And you know, who was the team that played the night before?

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Eagles.

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So, you know, at first I was thinking about that, saying, man, we've got that travel disadvantage

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and sure, they've got a one-day head start back to the East Coast, but they're also

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going to have to deal with that travel lag.

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But yeah, man, the Brother Bowl, the NFL likes to put it on Thanksgiving.

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Back in 2011, the first time these guys met in the regular season, that was Thanksgiving

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night then.

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Kind of an uneventful game, but we had that Dennis Pitta touchdown that put the Ravens

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over the edge here, and this one, it was Rashad Bateman who got the big touchdown that broke

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open the lead.

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It was great, man, to get the fun back after last week and the offense just, you know,

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every yard they'd made, they gained was so hard earned and just all the turnovers, man,

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it just wasn't the Ravens football that we've been enjoying watching this year, you know?

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So it was a lot of fun to see that get back on track, even if it took them a couple drives

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and some controversial decisions to get there, which we'll certainly break into at some

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point later in the show.

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Sure.

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Yeah, man, initial reaction, just like, it feels good, 3-0, for the older brother to

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win.

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Peter, I know you can agree with me, it's always good to put your younger siblings in

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their place.

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So it was quite funny because my middle brother did ask me to watch the game with him that

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night.

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So, yeah, I just gave him a little bit of ribbing in there.

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But he likes John too, so, you know, we both can pick on our youngest brother together.

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But yeah, man, you know what's crazy?

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I don't know if you guys have thought about this, but I just had this thought the other

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day of like, everyone talks about how the Ravens and Steelers are like mirror images

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of each other, right?

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Very similar franchises, very similar in how they want to construct their teams and pillars

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of stability and things like that.

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And it feels like the last couple of years, there's just, I mean, nobody can really point

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to it, right?

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But for whatever reason, the Steelers just have our number.

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We just play like absolute crap.

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It seems like the Steelers just know how to play more physical, just know how to make

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plays in these games.

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And they've just come out ahead.

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We watch that game together and it's just like, I feel like there was never really a

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point in that game where you're like, yeah, the Ravens are in control.

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The Steelers just always were.

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And then I look at the Chargers team and I'm like, you got the same hardball, you got a

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hardball on the other side, you've got a very similar, albeit not exact roster, but you

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see all the number of ex-Ravens there, players and coaches, still strong offense built on

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the run game, strong defense that was tackling really hard, playing really good.

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And I mean, you kind of saw that even in the first quarter, these teams are very similar

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to each other, right?

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They're playing like this.

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But in this game, I feel like, I mean, I'd love to hear from you guys, but for me, I

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was a little down in the beginning, but it was also one of those, I just felt like the

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Ravens were kind of in control of this game.

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And clearly, even though the Chargers are being very physical on defense and everything,

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they did enough to win that game, right?

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And it just baffles me.

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Everyone talks about how these teams are so similar in different ways and everything,

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but for whatever reason, the Steelers, we can't figure it out, but the hardball, like

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Jim Harbaugh, we can get it figured out.

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Yeah, I don't know what to do with the Steelers.

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I'm hoping that something changes when we play them at home later this month, or I guess,

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in December.

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And it's just weird.

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It's a very strange sensation.

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But kind of going to your point with playing the Chargers, kind of maybe talking about

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the defense starting off there, the difficulty they had on the first drive set me off in

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a bad way, right?

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Never got the third down, they just walked right down the field, they scored seven points.

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I'm like, are we really going to do this again?

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Like, I'm already tired.

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I don't want to be up for this late game.

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Please do something to change my mind about this.

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I'm getting old, you know, I'm just like, I don't want to see this.

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And then it got a little bit better, and unfortunately, the last drive before the half, 24 seconds

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ago, I'd go ahead and score another three points, and you're like, come on, man.

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This is unacceptable.

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And then the last drive kind of ticked me off a little bit, too.

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I know the circumstances, we're four down football, and I understand how much harder

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that is to stop.

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I felt like we had them, and then we committed penalties, which is something we've seen before,

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and I'm just like, man, I want to see that killer instinct.

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So I left the overall impression of the game, and we'll talk about it, like there was good

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things that the defense did, you know, or even got a game ball for that middle portion

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of the game.

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Even though Harbaugh acknowledged that he gave up ten points, and they gave him seven

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at the end.

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You know, if he ignored 17 points, he did a great job.

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If you ignore the bad, it was great.

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It's just the weirdest, it was like the weirdest little thing, but nevertheless, I understand

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where it came from.

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They were working on the fly to replace Roquan, and I think they were experimenting with that

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all game long, right?

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And I applaud them being able to figure it out as the game went on.

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So the defense, it's still going through growing pains, but I can see a path that this is getting

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better.

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I can see how it might work out, but it's going to take time, and I feel like it's one

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of those things where, you know, you look at 2012, and it was the offense that peaked.

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The defense was always kind of middling, but the offense peaked.

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If the offense stays, like, you know, quite good, and then the defense finds a way to

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peak near the end of the season, that'll be a really huge recipe for success in the playoffs

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and give you more optimism.

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That's the good news.

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It's like, legitimately, at this point, it's like 99% chance that we're going to make the

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playoffs, 78% chance we're going to win the division, with the flip of us winning and

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the Steelers losing this week.

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So I'm optimistic that they can still, you know, build this plane in the air.

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What you love to see is that there's improvements, right?

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And you know, I've mentioned this before on the pod.

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We've seen this before with Ravens units, you know, 2013 comes to mind, 2017 to a certain

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extent.

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You know, sometimes these defensive units have started the season out pretty poorly,

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but you know, as the season has come along, personnel changes have happened.

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I think whenever the weather gets colder and, you know, it gets deeper into the season and

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players aren't 100%, you know, starting to get that wear and tear on the body that comes

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in an NFL season, that just plays better for Ravens football, no matter what the defense

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is, right?

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Because the defense is always going to be physical.

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It's always going to be hard hitting, even in years when it's not quite firing on all

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cylinders for whatever reason.

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So yeah, I mean, I think we're seeing improvements, but the reality of the matter is, you know,

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at this stage of the season, I think we just have to understand what this team is, right?

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It's a team that has, and I still cannot believe this because we're the Ravens, still

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this deep into the season, the number one offense in the entire NFL for the year.

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And you got a defense that has talented players, but is not locked down.

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They're not.

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And the Ravens just have to accept that.

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And if they can develop into that, great.

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But they, you know, I think that the strategy of this team has to be, you got to rely on

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this offense.

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You got to lean on this offense, be aggressive with this offense and figure out how to get

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this offense working when you play a Pittsburgh or play, you know, we'll see how they do

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against Philadelphia.

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We'll talk about that.

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Philadelphia has a very incredibly strong defensive unit this year because the offense,

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let's be honest, is the best path to a championship this year.

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We finally have an offense that's clicking on all cylinders every week with the exception

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of that Pittsburgh game.

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And I guess we can argue the Cleveland game, you know, they've shown up and they've

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been a force for the opposing defense to, to try and stop.

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And you know, you need defense, right?

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Of course you need defense, but at a certain point, you just got to understand this unit

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is what it is.

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Let's talk about some of the good on this defense.

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You know, first thing I want to say is just like, you know, we've seen it now two weeks

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in a row, Hamilton and our Darius are starting safeties.

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I feel like that's got to be part of the formula moving forward.

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It's just like, Marcus has done a lot of good for us, but I think right now, like can't

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be trusted.

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I think back there.

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It's probably kind of sucks to have Hamilton back in, in that role where he's not around

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the football and, you know, making big splash plays and everything.

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It really has made a difference.

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You know, he's been playing really well in the back end.

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Our Darius is pretty well, dude, I'm just really happy for our Darius, you know, obviously

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like Hamilton, super talented, like physical freak, just like, you know, six, five and

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moving around like that is absolutely insane.

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I'm six, five and I have cannot move, you know, to the same extent that Hamilton can,

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but our Darius, man, like, you know, he continues to impress.

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I mean, we talked about him even early in the season where he got limited snaps.

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I'm like, man, he's playing so physical, like even though he's a small guy, but, but, you

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know, I feel like putting him in the starting role right now, like, I think you're really

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starting to see that, like, he's playing really, really well in that role.

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And you know, now second week in a row, like, I think the defense has been performing well.

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And even for this game, Roquan was out, I feel like, you know, that has got to be part

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of the formula moving forward, it's just to stick with those guys.

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I, I'm going to pose a question that Ken posed to me when I was on his defense show last

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night, because I'm kind of curious your guys thoughts.

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What percent chance do you think there is that Marcus Williams makes impact snaps for

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this team that we're like, happy to see, like, they're, they're good snaps?

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Yeah, you mean, you mean going forward, not snaps he's done this year?

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Like, like, yeah, for the rest of the year.

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And it's okay if it's because of injury, right.

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But like, he actually goes in and you're like, oh, look, Marcus Williams, he's back.

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Like, what percent chance do you put on that?

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I can't even answer that question, man.

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I can't even answer that question because I just don't know what's going on with him.

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I just, you know, it, that's the thing.

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And I think the only way he gets back on the field at this point, except for maybe some,

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you know, some quarter packages, I mean, I don't know, you know, it's some, some defensive

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packages that we haven't seen yet.

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He's just, unfortunately this year, just not one of the best safeties we have.

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Hamilton and Ardarius are, are those guys.

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I mean, I guess what you're talking about is maybe, you know, if they want to get Hamilton

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back in the nickel, then that would get Marcus back on the field.

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But at this point, you're seeing improvement in the defense.

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I just, I just think you got to stick with what they're doing unless a major injury happens,

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which I don't really want to speculate on.

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I mean, for me, like, you know, under, under 50%, you know, yeah.

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And the, with him and Eddie Jackson, I do, I do feel like, I don't know, obviously like

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this is a little bit of speculation here and like, you know, I'm sure like other people

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have talked about it and all that stuff, but like, you know, Marcus having the contract,

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like, I think he's just going to have a longer leash than Jackson who, you know, just came

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So, you know, but it seems like to me like poor play and, you know, the, the benching

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for the week of actually not even being active, like, I feel like that's got to be something

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with something personal or, you know, behavioral related, something like that.

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So like, you know, if you have those combinations of things, like, I mean, I feel like it's

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going to be tough to get back from that.

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Like one, you got to get your mental, you know, mental's in a good, in a good space.

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But then too, like, you know, you got to fix, you know, you got to fix the practice, right?

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You know, if, if, if the team doesn't trust you to be able to in practice, then like,

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you know, what, what are you doing?

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So, but yeah, under 50%, like, I, I just don't know.

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I feel like he's going to be a cut candidate or something next year.

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I don't know how the financials are going to work, but, you know, we'll see.

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Yeah, I agree with all that.

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That's definitely where, where my head's at.

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I think the thing with Marcus Williams too, that's kind of frustrating, I think she said

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so well with being the headspace that can't be right.

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Like, we don't, we don't have a, you know, any Intel on this, but surely something's

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up with just his confidence.

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And I think confidence is a huge part of performing well in the NFL.

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Everybody's so good at the sport clearly because that's how they got there.

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But without confidence, I don't see him playing to the standard we need.

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So I guess we'll see, hopefully no injuries, but they are so thin.

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I can't think they, I don't think they can cut them this year.

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They just don't have any depth.

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I mean, like legitimately, like, you could go to Beau Braid, you're going to go to Stussy

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Kane.

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Like that's not happening.

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I heard that May got released, so maybe they can go get him.

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I don't know if he got anywhere.

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Marcus May.

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Well, I mean, so I will say this.

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I think that, you know, if there's an injury, I think Marcus is, is the best option that

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you have in a limited set.

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You know, Chargers got him, sorry, Chargers got Marcus, but I mean, just, just because,

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you know, he's, he's been there, he has a culture, sure it's a different system than,

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you know, he was successful in, but I mean, I, as little as he's shown this year, I just

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don't see how putting, you know, a late round rookie in there in high pressure situations

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and in a playoff push would be a better move than putting a vet back there who at least

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has the past experience, even if it's not showing this year, so, but again, hopefully

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not something we need to get to, but yeah, I mean, in addition to the secondary, we had

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some more replacements, you talked about it, hinted at it earlier, inside linebacker rotation

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with Roquan Smith, unfortunately out, Christian Welsh got the start, didn't get many snaps

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after that.

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So a lot of Chris board and quite a lot of Malik Harrison, a career high in tackles from

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Malik Harrison, this game, a quick trivia time, quick trivia time.

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This was the most tackles Malik Harrison had in a game since what game?

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National championship game.

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I don't know, uh, 2020 versus the Colts.

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He had 11 tackles.

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No kidding.

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All right.

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I had to look that up.

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I didn't know that off the top of my head.

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That was just, I was just curious when he had 13 tackles, I was just like, that has

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to be a career high.

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Right.

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And it is, it is.

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But, uh, yeah, I mean, I think Chris, you alluded to it a little bit in our chat this

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week.

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A hard hitter, man.

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Malik Harrison reminded us all that he is one hard hitter.

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Um, I think certainly there's still some, you know, we don't love him in pass protection,

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but he certainly made some plays in the run game and got blocked a couple of times, but

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you know, it wasn't all bad.

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I think there was definitely, you know, some spark he showed, which, you know, at this

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stage in the year with the injuries, you know, it was promising.

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Yeah, no, I, it was, it was definitely, you know, really great to see him.

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Um, I can't remember if he got a game ball.

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I assume he did.

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Oh yeah.

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But yeah, no, it was, it was, it was a great performance from him.

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But uh, but yeah, kind of same thing of, you know, past coverage still a little bit shaky,

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but I mean, honestly, you know, given the early parts of the game and then going to

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Dobbins quite often, like, I think it just kind of made sense to have him get a lot of

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snaps Simpsons, uh, snaps being a little bit lower, I think it was a little bit surprising

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to me.

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But then again, Harrison hasn't been here a while, so like, you know, I could guess

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I could kind of see like, if you want to have him take like over the row role and then have

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Simpson kind of continue to, uh, you know, uh, go through his role.

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I guess that makes sense.

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But, uh, but yeah, Chris board, like he's another guy that like played a little bit

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of snaps, uh, last week as well.

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And some of those passing, uh, downs as well, I, I feel like he's a, you know, one of those

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guys have been pretty good.

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Um, I know this is actually his second stint with the Ravens and even during his first

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stint, like I felt like he kind of came in those similar packages and performed pretty

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well.

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So, um, you know, again, not going to be a starter or anything, but like, I feel like,

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you know, from a fourth, you know, fourth linebacker or something like that, like it's

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about as good as you could expect.

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I was tremendously surprised to see Welsh out there as a starter.

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Uh, and then it didn't take very long for them to move away from that.

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Uh, he never saw any more snaps after the first half.

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And I was very surprised though, that Simpson basically had a lower snap count than he had

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in any of the games with Roquan.

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Uh, very fascinating that that happened.

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Um, I wasn't surprised that Harrison took so many snaps.

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I thought that he might like be the, the mic, uh, and not, and, and kind of keep Simpson

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in a similar role and not move him around.

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But uh, for Bordeaux to get some snaps and in replacement, and I was just surprised.

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I don't know if it's a data point to go forward with.

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Um, I would assume not.

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I think that will, they will revert back to Simpson, um, as the primary guy, uh, when

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Roquan's back.

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It sounds like he might, he will be for the, the game he already started practicing today,

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which is a good sign.

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But, um, yeah, it was definitely really interesting, but Harrison did have a career game.

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I imagine it might be his best game of his, like legitimately of his career ever, like

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going, even going forward, um, just because of the opportunity set and the way that he

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played.

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Um, and it was still cool to see him, uh, participating as a outside linebacker, which

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he normally has done when we have a fully healthy inside linebacker in core.

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So, uh, just showing a lot of versatility in those 72% of snaps and, um, yeah, definitely

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I thought he played admirably.

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Anything else you want to hit on the defense or move over to the offensive side of the

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ball?

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Oh man.

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There's a couple of things for sure.

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Like, uh, I guess like the big thing is, uh, today this white did play more as advertised

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52% of snaps, but it wasn't fully at the expense of Stevens.

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He was still in at 78% of snaps.

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The Ravens are using a four corner dime now and they're using Stevens on the inside, um,

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in that formation.

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So it's interesting to see how that's been playing out.

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Um, there's still kind of doing a down or a drive by drive substitution with Stevens

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injured avias.

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And I think that's reasonable given how both of them are playing at the moment.

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Um, and I just want to like continue to say with, as we talk about the corners, I I'm

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really in high on Nate Wiggins.

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I thought he had one of his best games of his career so far.

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He really flashed his speed as a weapon and his ball skills.

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Um, I think that, uh, he's going to be a huge part and I'm, I'm still, I'm still trying

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to towards thinking he should get a hundred percent of snaps.

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I understand why that's not happening, but, um, I, I fully anticipate next year him being

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a actual true starter at corner and not getting off the field.

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Um, it's, it, I, I'm loving what I'm seeing so far.

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Yeah, no, I mean, he had a little bit of struggles early in the season, but yeah, he continues

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to improve as the year goes on, um, reminds me a little bit of Humphrey Humphrey's rookie

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year, right?

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You know, Humphrey had a little bit of a Rocky, uh, you know, first quarter, first third of

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his rookie year, but then, uh, it was really solid going down, down the gate there.

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And then obviously took off, uh, the next year there, um, it's looking like he's going

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down that path, but yeah, Wiggins played great.

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Um, yeah, I, I don't think white made as many impact plays as he did the previous week in

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Pittsburgh, but I think overall he was pretty good in coverage.

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Um, very surprising these first two games, how well he's played, given the fact that

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he was, you know, essentially set to be released by the Rams before the Ravens, you know, jumped

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in and made that trade.

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So we'll see if it continues, um, you know, uh, good signs right now, but it's only two

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games.

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So, um, but with, with the struggles you've had in the secondary, you know, any, any positive

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play is welcomed.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Um, yeah, I was going to say I agreed with Wiggins, Alec, I think it's a great point.

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Um, I feel like his, uh, you know, still in some situations I think you can get some penalties,

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but I do feel like he's kind of cleaned it up a little bit.

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Um, just being physical without being like overly physical and, you know, getting called.

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So, uh, yeah, I do like that.

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Tredavious white love to see more snaps from him and yeah.

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Uh, if, and when mullet gets healthy, like that'll help on the inside, kind of give you

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a little bit more flexibility of like where to play Humphrey and all that.

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But like right now, like, I feel like this is a, I feel like the secondary is kind of

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in a good space right now.

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Yeah, you could certainly do worse.

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I'm liking what we're seeing with the safeties and the, and the corners and the way it's

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starting to gel.

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And it definitely feels like you were mentioned with mullet.

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I too think there'll be a spot for mullet when he's healthy, but I do think that might

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require an injury because unfortunately, like he can't, he can't play on the outside.

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And I like that having that option with J D. Um, and I don't know, but I do think if

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he's available, he would be an obvious fourth corner candidate, maybe over Stevens in some

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packages, depending on like their personnel packages.

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But I don't know, I, I hope that he comes, you know, is healthy and can contribute to

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the team, but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets squeezed out somehow.

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And I just don't know.

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Um, I'm, I'm like legitimately just don't know which way they're going to go with it.

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I'm curious because, um, yeah, there's, they're gonna have to sort of make some tough decisions

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on that, um, just by numbers.

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So, uh, yeah, I guess that's one last thing I'll say is we really benefited from JK Dobbins

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getting hurt, unfortunate for him, but that offense really stopped moving once they didn't

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have a good running back and foreshadowing we're playing the Eagles have a really good

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running back this year.

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So, uh, and I don't want to say say it won't get hurt.

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That'd be sad for the NFL.

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Um, so therefore like keep an eye on that when we talk about the defense, uh, that matchup,

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the offense, they went for it on fourth down three times.

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They converted three times because they converted it.

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Everything's great.

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Right?

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Off to you, Peter.

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Look, man, I thought that, look it, whether you liked it or not, I think it's undeniable

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that that was the difference in the game, right?

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If, if they don't convert that first one, um, you know, they're, they're still down

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a field goal.

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You got to punt the ball back with the way the defense was starting out.

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You know, they were starting to get their groove, but you know, are they necessarily

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going to hold the chargers and are you going to be down two scores going into the halftime?

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You know, sure they would get the ball first, but you know, it's, it's hard to tell what

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would have happened game script wise there.

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What I will say, I think like what it certainly seems that our fan base is kind of split on

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this.

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And I did listen to a little bit of local, uh, sports talk radio, uh, cause I was kind

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of curious what the reaction would be.

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Um, and to their credit, to their credit, you know, everyone's, they stayed consistent.

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They were like, they didn't like it.

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A lot of everyone who's been critical of Harbaugh did not like it.

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And I get it, you know, and I, I respect that if, if you don't, you know, we, we originally

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it sounded like, you know, the whole takes on that were just like, you know, it always

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came out when it didn't work.

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Right.

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So it seemed results based, you know, reaction, but you know, I, I can understand not liking

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that call.

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I mean, it was the first time that call had been done since 2012.

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And that time when it was attempted that deep in your own territory was on a fake punt,

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I believe.

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Yeah.

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That's what we saw.

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Um, I, I don't have that stat in front of me right now, but that's what I remember

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seeing.

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Um, look, I think with all of this, it comes down to matchup, you know, and the Ravens

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offensive line was winning all night against the Chargers front seven.

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You try this against the Steelers last week at that territory, you know, it more than

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likely would have failed, right.

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But the Chargers, they have a, they have a good defense, but the Ravens offensive line

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all night was able to do what they wanted to do past protection-wise run, protect blocking

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in this matchup.

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I think it was the right call now, again, is if this is a, you know, divisional round

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against Pittsburgh or Kansas city.

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I don't know if you call that.

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I don't know if that's the right call.

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But in that, with this game, you know, with the way the matchup set up, I think it was

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the right call.

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And that's not just because of the results.

449
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:37,320
What do you think, Chris, I mean, like I said, like I said earlier, when I was watching

450
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,320
the game, like, I mean, yeah, the first quarter, like wasn't the best, we were down a little

451
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,040
bit, but it didn't feel like it feels like we were performing well enough to be able

452
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,120
to, to, to really get going.

453
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,000
So to me, I think it was a gutsy call, but, but honestly, like, I feel like it was the

454
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000
spark we needed.

455
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,960
And then once we hit that, like, it was, it was just a no brainer.

456
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,280
I think at that point, like, it became really clear that, you know, we were scoring touchdowns,

457
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520
they were settling for field goals.

458
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,920
So, you know, to, to me, that's a winning recipe.

459
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,880
You know, you don't want to give, you know, you don't want to take away the opportunities

460
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,800
that you have to be able to score those touchdowns and then have, you know, them turn into more

461
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:19,400
field goals for them, obviously, you know, it's shifts, shifts the math, but it was a

462
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,400
little gutsy.

463
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,480
But then again, like, you know, I think some of the best plays that we've had are, have

464
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,480
been really gutsy calls.

465
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,360
I know we can't see it in the back with the Lamar fourth and twos over there.

466
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,360
Yeah.

467
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,020
So, you know, I'm fine with that.

468
00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:36,520
So here, here's my journey with this, this call and we're going on a journey guys, get

469
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,520
your backpacks.

470
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Yeah.

471
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,520
We're going on a journey.

472
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840
It's going to be spirit at a spiritual level.

473
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:48,440
So we go on and uh, it's fourth and five at the 21 Baltimore 21 in the first quarter.

474
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,600
And we punt and the Ben Baldwin fourth down bought, said like, you know, medium go for

475
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,600
it.

476
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,360
And I was like, wow, four than five at your 21 it's like medium go for it.

477
00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,360
Huh?

478
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,720
I guess the bot's still working all right on blue sky.

479
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,480
And then they get to the fourth and one and I think to myself, yeah, I go for it.

480
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Like for sure.

481
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Go for it.

482
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,800
And I was pissed off that they didn't do it right away.

483
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,000
You know, they wait for the two minute warning.

484
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,400
So then they go back on the field or here in the tweets and the chatter and I was like,

485
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,400
Ooh, they're finally doing it.

486
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Like, let's go.

487
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,880
Let's, I'm, I'm excited and it works and that's always good too because uh, I just can't,

488
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,480
I just can't with people and you know, thanksgiving so close, people won't want to talk about

489
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,480
this.

490
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,520
He would be like, can you believe they, yes, I can believe it because the math is good.

491
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,520
The math is good.

492
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,160
And like, I want to see more offenses do this.

493
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,120
Like, do you also keep your retirement fund in your mattress?

494
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Like the math is good to maybe invest in somewhere else, but God forbid you take a risk.

495
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,720
So I was super pleased that, uh, we went for it and I hope to see more of it.

496
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080
I think it's also very transformative to know that you have fourth down available similar

497
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,600
to what I was talking about on that last drive.

498
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,640
They knew it was four down football that changes the way you approach third down and maybe

499
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,220
even second down mattering on the situation.

500
00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:10,240
So I'm like, I want to see more of this.

501
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,800
And you know, the nerds have been talking about this for a long time.

502
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Uh, Tomlin would never, you know, Tomlin Tomlin would love to punt that ball.

503
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,320
He went for it in his own territory or I mean, uh, against us and we stopped him.

504
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,840
Oh, that's good.

505
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
I mean, good for him for embracing it, but he, he's like one of the most cowardly on

506
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,720
the, in every, every, apparently every single coach is cowardly, uh, from, from the math

507
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,720
perspective.

508
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Because like I said, for apparently on fourth and five, you maybe should be considering

509
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,360
going for it.

510
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Uh, let's, let's make this clear.

511
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Let's make this clear first.

512
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Okay.

513
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Okay.

514
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,840
I, I do not advocate the Ravens going for it on fourth and five on their own 21.

515
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,420
I advocated for them going for it on fourth and inches when their offensive line was pushing

516
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:58,480
back the charges defensive players, two yards, right when the ball was snapped all night.

517
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,480
That's what I was.

518
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:06,160
I'm not going to actively advocate for that, but I am, I am, uh, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm fourth

519
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,440
down curious for sure.

520
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Definitely interested, but, uh, I thought it was, it was great.

521
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,600
I think going forward there, it made sense.

522
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,640
I was, I was super happy.

523
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,360
They went forward for on two when they were up by seven to try and make it a two score

524
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360
game like that.

525
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,240
It didn't work out, but it was, I think it was a fine play call to everything about that

526
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,240
was fine.

527
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Just didn't end up working.

528
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,360
That would have been awesome.

529
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,600
I mean, that'd have been super cool because then, um, you know, another, another dub for

530
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,920
the analytics cap, but unfortunately because of the result of based world we live in, we'll

531
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:40,800
have to wait to see for the next time that actually works, but, uh, I, I, I think, um,

532
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,080
I'm really happy to see them pushing, uh, the envelope with such a highly efficient

533
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,560
offense when you have Derrick Henry and you have Lamar Jackson, you should be taking more

534
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160
gambles cause they're going to pay off more often than not.

535
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Um, a lot of these, all these models are built off average NFL team and, and we are historically

536
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,680
good offense and we could be even more historic if we push the envelope.

537
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040
So I'm here for it.

538
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Yeah.

539
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680
One caveat I still want to make sure is clear here.

540
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:13,960
I think, like I said, I liked it in this game, but I could still see this happening where,

541
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,200
you know, this comes back to bite us if we do it at the wrong time with the wrong play,

542
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,600
you know, at a critical time in the playoffs.

543
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:28,000
So I just hope that the coaching staff continues to also, you know, look at the other factors

544
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000
here as well when they're going for it with these decisions.

545
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,840
But you know, it worked in this one and, uh, gave us an, and just another highlight, real,

546
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,420
uh, deep throw there from Mar Jackson to Bateman, man, you know, Munkin was trying so hard to

547
00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:47,320
get this connection going last year and it was close.

548
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160
It was close at the end of last year.

549
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Um, still wasn't there, but man, we're seeing a lot of this with, with, uh, this Lamar to

550
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Bateman connection, man, and, uh, man, the, the play in this game was, was one of the

551
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,520
more exciting ones.

552
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Yeah.

553
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Good on them.

554
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,480
You know, it kind of reminds me, I like what you were just saying about like, you know,

555
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,960
the results on fourth down and kind of like go for more often than not, and the results

556
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,280
will, will kind of come.

557
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,760
I feel like, uh, you know, that's kind of like Bateman here and that like, um, you know,

558
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,760
he's got a lot of talent.

559
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Yes.

560
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Like there are some drops and like, yeah, there are a little bit of a concern, but like,

561
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240
um, you know, I, I felt like they, they kept the faith and we're just waiting for that

562
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480
one big play and they were rewarded for it.

563
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Uh, in this case, it was a great catch, you know, obviously you had to try and battle

564
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,640
the corner's arm while he's trying to corral in the catch and, uh, you know, struggled

565
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,640
with that earlier.

566
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,560
I think there was one or two where, you know, he had the drop in those situations, but here

567
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,960
it was able to make it happen and it was a huge play for us.

568
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,280
So, um, yeah, I love to see it.

569
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,120
Um, you know, it feels like, you know, now that we've kind of, we've kind of figured

570
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,480
out where Bateman fits in this offense, he, he's not going to be that, you know, wide

571
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,960
receiver one, uh, guy is going to catch, you know, five, six balls a game, uh, every time

572
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,240
he's going to have some drops, but I think, uh, you know, he's going to be good for a

573
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,560
couple of, uh, big catches, either drive, uh, chain movers, or, you know, in this case,

574
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240
uh, a big play to touch him.

575
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Yeah.

576
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:19,040
I think it was cool that Mark Andrews does a sneak on a fourth down, um, and gets the

577
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,520
conversion there.

578
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Then we see, um, Zay flip the field on that zone beater, and then you see the Bateman

579
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,960
catch that you, uh, allude to Peter, uh, 40 yard catch, uh, for a touchdown.

580
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,240
I was stunned to find out at the end of the night that I did not cash my parlay where

581
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,960
the only thing missing was seven more yards from Bateman.

582
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:45,400
I was like, really, he got 40 and one in the first or the second, you know, at the end

583
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,400
of the second half.

584
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
I was like, surely he's going to get, you know, 10 more yards.

585
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Uh, well, you know, well, you know, who else, you know, didn't, didn't cash their parlay.

586
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Was that, uh, that ref who initially, uh, you know, said no touchdown on that clear

587
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,760
touchdown catch by Mark Andrews, that's right.

588
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,520
That busted his parlay, you know, I guess he had the under or something truly.

589
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:14,040
So I, I was, I was astounded by that, but, uh, man, I called it at the end of the game.

590
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,240
A few people were also calling it, uh, with Bateman because, um, of his zone verse man

591
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,240
numbers.

592
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:24,760
Uh, and yeah, he, he had that performance Zay man, he's just so good.

593
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,880
Not only was he able to flip the field with that zone meter, but he also just like had

594
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,280
that nice toe tap down the sideline.

595
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,160
I mean, the guy just like, he's a number one receiver, man, like he's, he's a real deal.

596
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,160
He's good.

597
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,240
Um, can't believe we have one in Baltimore.

598
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:42,120
And then, and honestly, I feel like Bateman, man, he he's right in there in that like malaise

599
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:49,240
of like very high quality receivers, you know, uh, Jacoby Myers comes to mind as like a comp,

600
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,520
so to speak, where like, no, one's like going nuts.

601
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,640
Like, Oh my God, we have to get Jacoby Myers on our team, but he's such a good, like, he's

602
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,640
a really good contributor.

603
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Like he performs, you know, uh, and I like, I like what I'm seeing out of Bateman.

604
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Those guys are really, uh, holding it down.

605
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,200
And it's not that surprising when you look at it that, you know, Deontay Johnson's not

606
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,460
cracking into the lineup because these guys are holding it down and we're running with

607
00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:16,440
two heavies every day in play, you know, uh, likely Ricard Kohler and Andrews, um, they're

608
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,720
out there every single boy, you know, no more Kohler for a bit, unfortunately, I know with

609
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,800
that broken arm, like, I guess Andrew's gonna have to play a little bit more rats.

610
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,960
I mean, I think, uh, I think we have enough heavies to make up for it, but, uh, I'll operate

611
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,260
him have speed recovery guy is a glass eater playing in a fourth quarter with a broken

612
00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:38,960
arm, uh, run blocking with a broken arm.

613
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Can you believe it?

614
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,040
I said, I will never understand that phrase.

615
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Who came up with that?

616
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Who in the world?

617
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,720
Like, you know, the, the, every time those phrases come out, there's some backstory,

618
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,720
like it's just not, it's not just made out of thin air.

619
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:54,720
All right.

620
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,680
I'm gonna look into it for you.

621
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,680
We'll get to that.

622
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,680
We'll get to that.

623
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,200
That'll be the random diatribe for the day.

624
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,600
All right.

625
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Anyways, but yeah, I think one more thing with the offense, you got to talk about, I

626
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,760
mean, I don't know what else there is to talk about with Lamar.

627
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Apparently, you know, they said on the broadcast, his, his Monday night numbers, you know, 22

628
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,480
touchdowns, zero interceptions, zero interceptions, um, just incredible, kind of the anti Flacco

629
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,480
in that sense.

630
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,400
You know, Flacco never played well on primetime games unless they were in the playoffs.

631
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,880
And here's Lamar just playing his best football on primetime.

632
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,240
Uh, incredible.

633
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,960
I don't really know what to say there that hasn't been said, man, he just continues

634
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,960
to do it.

635
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Week in, week out, whether the guys around them are doing it or not.

636
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,400
Um, and, uh, Derek Henry got him back on track, 140 plus in this game.

637
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Um, you know, we were looking at this Chargers unit and defensive unit and we were looking

638
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,400
at them and like, like I said, a lot of talented players, they've done well, their schedule

639
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,560
was a little suspect and Cincinnati was able to get some points up on them.

640
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,480
So, you know, we, we thought there might be a shot and, uh, yeah, Lamar and Henry were

641
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,940
able to do their thing.

642
00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:13,760
Always great to see Henry with 20 plus carries too.

643
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,240
That is, uh, that's the recipe.

644
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,300
Yeah.

645
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,300
They kept going to him.

646
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:25,020
Always making it happen and, and no, no shock to me.

647
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,020
It makes sense.

648
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:27,020
Apparently it's from the circus.

649
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:31,020
A glass eater was a performance, uh, from the circus.

650
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:37,300
I should've guessed that man, swords there too, and just, you know, putting people in

651
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:43,380
the paths of tigers and you know, of course it was the freaking circus able to endure

652
00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:44,380
pain.

653
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:45,380
That's, that's what it's all about.

654
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:46,380
Apparently.

655
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:47,380
Yeah.

656
00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:49,600
Uh, do we want to do MVPs?

657
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,600
I think so.

658
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Yeah.

659
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Yeah.

660
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Let's, let's do that.

661
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,600
All right.

662
00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,340
I'll jump in then, uh, Mark Andrews, man, Mark Andrews, tough catches, tough catches

663
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:01,340
that, that hip.

664
00:38:01,340 --> 00:38:06,860
Uh, the one he got on his hip, the setup that, uh, first Lamar touchdown, um, you know, it

665
00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:09,980
was clearly a touchdown and his grab, but that was a great leaping one there.

666
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:15,140
He was able to secure the ball, not the easiest to grab, um, just continues to get healthier

667
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:19,980
and be a really consistent part of this offense when his numbers called and, uh, just be a

668
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:20,980
team guy.

669
00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:21,980
Nice.

670
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:22,980
Yeah.

671
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:27,900
I'll give a, I'll, I'll give mine to say, uh, Alec, you mentioned that play earlier

672
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,760
though, like the 22 yard catch, uh, to be able to set up that score at the end of the,

673
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,760
the first half.

674
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,500
Um, I thought it was just a huge play really helped shift momentum momentum.

675
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:41,720
And while we did give up a field goal, uh, just a few seconds later after that, like

676
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:46,880
I do feel like going into halftime, the, they had the momentum that they needed.

677
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,880
For sure.

678
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,880
I'll give it to justice.

679
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:54,200
He got that 51 yard run, uh, was able to break away and not get caught from behind.

680
00:38:54,200 --> 00:39:00,000
So that touchdown that, uh, sealed the game and, um, just continues to be a nice change

681
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000
of pace back.

682
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,840
He had another, um, you know, six or seven yard run up the middle, uh, change of pace

683
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,560
that was, uh, effective and just, yeah, I mean, he's just a good player, man.

684
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,480
He's, he's a real deal.

685
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,480
And uh, I saw, I didn't even, it didn't occur to me, but we paid him more money than, uh,

686
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:24,740
either Dobbins or, uh, Gus got in free agency and it really kind of shows, um, we think

687
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:25,740
of justice.

688
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:29,600
So frankly, and, and I think he's performing, it makes sense, but it is a little bit of

689
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,880
a interesting piece of context.

690
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:39,760
All right, let's talk about Philadelphia and to talk about it, we've got Phil to join the

691
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,760
show.

692
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,240
They'll welcome to the show.

693
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,240
Hey guys.

694
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240
How are you guys doing?

695
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,240
Too bad, man.

696
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,240
Not too bad.

697
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:47,240
Um, it's crazy.

698
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:54,280
We had you on back in, uh, 2020 for that game and man, this is a very different Eagles team

699
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,720
that we're looking at over here just, just four years later.

700
00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:58,720
Yeah.

701
00:39:58,720 --> 00:39:59,720
It's crazy.

702
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:00,720
Yeah.

703
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:01,720
Time flies.

704
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:02,720
Jalen Hurts was, uh, very raw.

705
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:11,840
It's a little bit different now, so yeah.

706
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Well yeah, let's talk about it.

707
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,040
You guys are, uh, kind of ranked fifth right now in the league.

708
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,400
Uh, you got Hertz performing well.

709
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,280
Uh, the big addition of Saquon Barkley in the off season.

710
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,140
He's been an absolute, uh, MVP candidate for you guys.

711
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:30,800
And then a defense that you just keep adding players.

712
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,680
I just can't believe fall in the draft that you just, people fall in the draft and Philly's

713
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,240
like, yeah, we'll take them.

714
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,240
Right.

715
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,080
They're always willing to step up and just take them.

716
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:47,720
And we've got a draft nerd alert, like Cooper Dejean, uh, just fall right in your lap and

717
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,360
you're like, we'll take that guy.

718
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,360
Yeah.

719
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,360
Yeah.

720
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,400
I don't know, you know, this, the last two drafts, I'm like, what is the NFL doing?

721
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,800
To be honest, it's, um, you know, we got Jalen Carter kind of, but I mean, I get the, I get

722
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,480
the pro, I get the issues with Jalen Carter, you know, a year ago, I understand.

723
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,000
I mean, even a year before that, Jordan Davis, we got Jordan Davis too.

724
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,360
It was, there's been a couple of times in the draft where I don't know what the NFL

725
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,360
is doing.

726
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,360
Just get the best player off the board.

727
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Uh, you know, and there's a lot of teams, this recent draft, they just went offense.

728
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,400
They probably should have got Quinion Mitchell.

729
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,560
He dropped all the way to 22.

730
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Um, it's crazy.

731
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,000
And then the Cooper Dejean thing also was a surprise to me that just didn't even make

732
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:40,160
sense because he had a first, first round, like draft grade and most mock drafts.

733
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,080
Um, and I don't know, man, like it's, it was, the value was just there and a couple of teams

734
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,240
should have like picked them up in the first round.

735
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,240
They just didn't.

736
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:54,560
And when I saw that was like, dude, the secondary is finally fixed because it was really bad

737
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,880
last year.

738
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,240
Um, and we traded with the commanders, they're idiots.

739
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:04,360
I don't even know why they even, if Howard Roseman is calling you, like just blah, no,

740
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,360
no, thank you.

741
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,440
We get somethings up.

742
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,640
Like we don't want to trade with you.

743
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,640
Always scheming.

744
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Yeah.

745
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,480
And he got, apparently he got, uh, from this draft, this latest draft, he's able to, he

746
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,480
won't compile.

747
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,800
We have a, I think at least 11 or 12 picks for this upcoming draft.

748
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640
So he was trading Willie and dealing and he did a really good job.

749
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Uh, you know, I can't complain.

750
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Uh, it's the last draft was really, he did it, hit it, hit on almost every player.

751
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,120
Uh,

752
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Man.

753
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Yeah.

754
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,480
King Keon Mitchell and Cooper Dejean is just criminal.

755
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,800
Uh, good on you guys.

756
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,240
And then, and like you mentioned back to back years with again, those, uh, those Georgia

757
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:53,520
products, um, on your D line, I mean, just nuts, honestly, the, I mean, just things that

758
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,040
were like, how did this happen?

759
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,320
It's like, thank you, Howard.

760
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,320
Yeah.

761
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,320
There you go, man.

762
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,320
I mean, that's how the great franchises do it.

763
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,320
Right.

764
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
You build through the draft, um, you know, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots have been doing

765
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,960
that for a while.

766
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,640
And I mean, these past few years, the Eagles, man, I mean, that's how you guys turned it

767
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,640
around.

768
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,640
Yeah.

769
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Yeah.

770
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,640
Yeah.

771
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Okay.

772
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Yeah.

773
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,640
Last year was the biggest one was a secondary.

774
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Um, it was really bad.

775
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,640
It was a bad safety play.

776
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,040
It was bad for, from injuries.

777
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,600
And then Bradbury, the corner bag just fell off a cliff.

778
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,880
And then we didn't really have depth that after that, other than Keely Ringo, but he

779
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,880
was raw.

780
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,360
He's also a Georgia product and we got him in the fourth round, but this year he actually

781
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,840
had the best camp in the best camp as far as cornerbacks goes.

782
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,280
Um, so, but he's still second stream play second stream player, cause we have so much

783
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
depth corner this year.

784
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Um, so yeah, man, it was, we were getting killed.

785
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Um, in the back end last year, that's one of the biggest reasons I would, I think that,

786
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,360
uh, we fall off a cliff because offense became very predictable and then the defense was

787
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:06,120
on the field too long and is really tee off in the middle of the field or wherever Bradbury

788
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,120
was.

789
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:15,960
So it was unfortunate, but yeah, I kind of want to say that basically the, the Eagles

790
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:23,080
secondary this year is what the Ravens secondary was last year and vice versa at high level.

791
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,960
It's kind of what it feels like.

792
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,720
Cause like you guys got Wiggins and draftees, uh, I put in the chat, but I really, really

793
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:31,720
like Wiggins as a player.

794
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,600
Um, I'm surprised he went 31, but again, that's how the draft went.

795
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:43,840
Uh, last time, um, he had like top three corners, I think in the draft, when young Mitchell

796
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,520
Wiggins and who the lion's gate was Arnold.

797
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Yeah.

798
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Arnold.

799
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Yeah.

800
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,960
That was crazy that those three guys went like in the twenties or also like great organizations

801
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,960
too.

802
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,960
Yeah.

803
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Yeah.

804
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Shocking.

805
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Right.

806
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:00,960
How's that work?

807
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,960
Are they good?

808
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,960
Remind me again.

809
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:09,280
Um, but yeah, dude, uh, I, I will say, you know, you got a lot of good things going there,

810
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,440
but that game you guys played against the Rams really beat you guys up.

811
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Um, and it was really unfortunate to see Graham get that season ending injury, uh, to his

812
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,380
tricep, uh, Darius slay and concussion protocol, uh, father Smith missed that game with the

813
00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:23,380
hamstring.

814
00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:24,380
He's still not practicing.

815
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:26,780
Uh, and then sweat as well.

816
00:45:26,780 --> 00:45:27,780
You're outside linebacker.

817
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:31,400
Um, he's not, it looked like it was just put it around rest and limited practice.

818
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,240
So maybe he'll be all right, but he got kind of banged up in the game.

819
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,400
So yeah, you guys got a lot going on, uh, with injuries as well.

820
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,400
Yeah.

821
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,400
Um, yeah, the Brandon Graham, uh, situation is unfortunate, you know, he was playing actually

822
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:52,240
really well and, um, quite, I think, uh, he just had a interview with like 94 seven or

823
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:53,240
in Philadelphia.

824
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:58,920
I think it's 94 seven, nine for one, um, very emotional, but I do think he actually wants

825
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,920
to come back.

826
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:05,160
Uh, even if, uh, after this season, just cool, uh, I'd love that to happen.

827
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Um, I think Josh sweat is just, is just getting arrested.

828
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:13,800
I think he's just, it's just the older player, uh, uh, Darius lay, I think he's concussed

829
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,800
or had a concussion.

830
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,440
Um, I'm not too worried about that again, like I said, we're pretty deep in corner.

831
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,600
So we have Isaiah Rogers and Keely Ringo too.

832
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,080
So, and the Vontae Smith, I think they should have set the Vontae Smith about two weeks

833
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,080
ago.

834
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:35,520
Um, but you look like he hurt himself during the Jaguars game and he didn't look right.

835
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,240
The game after, uh, people are like, what's the wrong with the Vontae Smith.

836
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,240
He's not getting any cash.

837
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,040
He's like, yeah, he looks like kind of an old man out there.

838
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,040
He doesn't look right.

839
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:50,320
So, um, like they should have set him.

840
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080
I personally think they should have done it because we have, we have decent depth of wide

841
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,080
receiver too.

842
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:00,120
So sit him, sit him, um, let him hang out, you know, um, it's not like what, how, what

843
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,640
the injuries we're dealing with in the week two and three of the season where like almost

844
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,800
everybody in the office was like out or like on IR.

845
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:18,160
So, um, you know, let him rest it close to a hundred percent.

846
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Um,

847
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,000
well, if we're talking about the Eagles, um, yeah, I talk about Saquon.

848
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Barkley, man, talk about a guy who is healthy, very healthy.

849
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Um, just, I mean, against the Rams, very strong rush defense.

850
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,120
They hadn't allowed a 100 yard rusher since week two, James Connor.

851
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,440
And not only did Saquon break 100, he broke 200 career high for him.

852
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,440
If I'm not mistaken.

853
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560
I think that's what they said on the broadcast.

854
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:51,240
Um, I mean, yeah, you've got to be thrilled to have, and we're obviously thrilled to have

855
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,640
Henry and Saquon has played one last game and has more rushing yards on him than on

856
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,640
the season.

857
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,640
Now.

858
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,520
I mean, it's, he's just been a revelation for you guys.

859
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Yeah.

860
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,200
No, I mean the one, the biggest thing we're missing.

861
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,080
So in our Superbowl run in 2022, we had miles Sanders and miles Sanders could catch all

862
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,080
the backfield.

863
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Um, and we were missing that with DeAndre Swift.

864
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,840
I'm not saying DeAndre Swift's a bad player.

865
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Uh, he's not, he's very good, but he's not a threat out of the backfield.

866
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,320
And every time we would put Kenneth Gainwell in the game, it was obvious that he was going

867
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,080
to be probably like a catchable, like a catching option, or like there was going to be like

868
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,080
a screen, which was made it predictable.

869
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Um, so once a car Barkley's just amazing.

870
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:47,120
I think, I think the giants for being morons and, um, uh, and it's, I just couldn't believe

871
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,120
that we got them.

872
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,440
There was like, there was actually like, there were rumors that the Eagles wanted Derek Henry

873
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,440
and Saquon Barkley.

874
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,760
They were like, Hey, let's get both of these guys because they have to have the money.

875
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,160
They still have a lot of cap space.

876
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Um, they're glad they didn't do that, but that would have been the same.

877
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,560
There was a rumor.

878
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,040
It's like, Hey, we should get both of these guys.

879
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,600
I've been, I don't think that would have worked quite frankly.

880
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,600
I've been crazy.

881
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,000
No, it wouldn't have, but I'll think the second one we'll want to sign at that point.

882
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Yeah.

883
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,720
Like they would, they would acknowledge it'd be cool, but they're like, come on, you know,

884
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:27,340
nonstop old Madden team, you got those two and Hertz back there, but yeah, so yeah, man,

885
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:28,340
it's, it's been awesome.

886
00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:31,000
I mean, it definitely helps that our office of wine is amazing.

887
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,480
Um, I know like a lot of people before this year were like, Oh, Kelsey, they lost Kelsey.

888
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,280
Well, man, I got, I kept telling people Jurgens who they replaced him with is a, he's really,

889
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,280
really good.

890
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,280
He's better than Kelsey.

891
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,280
Cause he's just a bigger, he's a bigger center that Kelsey was undersized.

892
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:53,160
So, um, they just have a crazy office of mine and the jets kind of did some stupid to the

893
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,280
Makai Becton go for free.

894
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,520
So we got Makai Becton for a million dollars.

895
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,240
Um, and, and, uh, the depth on our office of wine has been, it's been pretty good too.

896
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,800
When we, uh, didn't have them a lot of, for a while, we had Fred Johnson playing.

897
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,800
It was good.

898
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,920
We have Tyler Steen when Makai Becton was hurt, played well too.

899
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,480
So, um, it's been like a tandem.

900
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,480
It's, it's also, to be honest too, that, uh, generally hurts is a threat to run.

901
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,680
So it gives, it really puts a linebackers in like peril because they're like, okay,

902
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:33,240
if I key on Saquon, then generally hurts, we'll keep the ball and run.

903
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,880
Or if I key on Jalen hurts, then Saquon is going to run.

904
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,520
So it was like, you got to pick your poison.

905
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,320
And then if it's an RPO where it's going to be a pass, then again, it puts the linebackers,

906
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,280
especially in peril of the, especially in the middle of the field.

907
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:52,920
So it's, it's definitely like been, uh, it's a great marriage, um, for everyone involved

908
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,920
basically.

909
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,080
Um, so pretty, pretty happy with it.

910
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Phil, one of the thing I wanted to ask you and you kind of brought it up that you got

911
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,640
excited.

912
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Um, I, I, the athletic football should have talked about it today and I thought it made

913
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,320
so much sense.

914
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,440
I thought it was a really good analogy that running backs are an accelerant to an offense.

915
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,160
So if you already got the fire, right, your offense wasn't bad before, but you had this

916
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,840
guy in and now it's just bombs away similar to the Ravens, right?

917
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,840
You added Henry.

918
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,080
We already had a good offense, but now it's just like ridiculous, um, in a way it kind

919
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,080
of makes sense.

920
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,280
Like don't waste them, the giants, you know, like they just can't use them like that.

921
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,560
They'll never have that success cause they don't have the right infrastructure.

922
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,240
He's a great finishing piece.

923
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,760
Uh, and like you said, man, the offensive line is so good.

924
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:43,640
So, um, I imagine you guys didn't have this kind of season in mind when you signed a Saquon,

925
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,200
but like, was the fan base excited that you made that move and particularly, you know,

926
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,640
coming from the giants, when your division rivals, um, it seemed like people were excited

927
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,240
for it and like, and happy they made the addition.

928
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,240
Yeah.

929
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:02,080
I think to be honest, I think more people were happy with the two corners in the draft,

930
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,080
more so the Saquon.

931
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,560
Um, but I think a lot of people were still happy with that.

932
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,560
We got Saquon Barkley.

933
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,320
Uh, he's like a, you know, Pennsylvania kid.

934
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,680
Um, but I don't think people thought that it was going to be like this.

935
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,320
Like they're like, Oh yeah, Saquon, Saquon Barkley is really, really, really good.

936
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,320
Um, but didn't think it was going to be what we're seeing.

937
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,000
Um, so yeah, man, it's, it's been awesome, but I do think people were like, Oh, thank

938
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
God we got Quinion Mitchell and Cabrita Eugene kind of for free.

939
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,800
So I think a lot of people were more excited about that as far as Eagles fans go.

940
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,800
Nice.

941
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Yeah, man, it's going to be super interesting going back to Saquon real quick.

942
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,480
Like, um, I really don't know what to expect for this game, man.

943
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,920
I mean, you look at the offenses on both teams and you're like, like you said, like mirror

944
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,720
images, as you were saying, Phil, like the threat of the run game and having Jalen back

945
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,840
there and just like, you know, having to, you know, put linebackers in peril.

946
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,360
I mean, yeah, we know, we know all of that too.

947
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,280
So I honestly have no idea what it's going to be like this game because, you know, a

948
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,520
while, like, you know, you guys, I think right now on paper, like, you know, I think the

949
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,760
defense you guys have got is like, it's definitely better.

950
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,680
You know, is it going to be like, are you going to have like both these teams like running

951
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,680
all over each other?

952
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,280
Or are you going to like, you know, say like, you know, Hey, they're both going to expect

953
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,280
the run.

954
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,920
And then we're just going to like air it out all game.

955
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,840
I really have no idea, but I just know like, it's going to be a great matchup because you

956
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,960
got two teams that, you know, really similar to each other, built in similar ways, similar

957
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,360
talent levels.

958
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,360
It's going to be good.

959
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,960
Like, I feel like we knew in the beginning of the season is probably going to be a good

960
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,960
game.

961
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,000
But now this up here, like, yeah, this is going to be really good.

962
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Yeah, no, I'm, yeah, I'm really excited.

963
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:51,040
Yeah, I don't even know what to expect, to be honest.

964
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,040
I don't know.

965
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,040
I don't know.

966
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:58,240
Like you said, like both offenses are like mirror images of each other.

967
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:04,000
I think the one difference I would say is having AJ Brown on the Eagles.

968
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,000
I don't know if there's somebody analogous.

969
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,760
I mean, he has his eight flowers, but he's more of a, like a slot option.

970
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,160
That's not a discredit to him.

971
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,480
He's like all over the field, more, more or less, and being a slot sometimes take makes

972
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,960
it more advantageous because you don't have the sidelines as an extra defender.

973
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:29,860
So AJ Brown's like a big running back that can play where he's just, he's a freak.

974
00:54:29,860 --> 00:54:35,600
But and they gave their, they gave the Rams a little bit of that last game where I, I,

975
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,800
when I looked at the box, I was like, hmm, AJ Brown had a hundred yards receiving and

976
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,800
didn't notice.

977
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Yeah.

978
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Because of how, how crazy Sachar Barkley was running.

979
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,320
So I think that'll be X factor, but for the Eagles and then also for the Eagles, the,

980
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,800
the defensive line, especially the tackles and how Jalen Carter plays because the last

981
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,600
few games has been like blowing up a lot of the other teams, offensive lines, and then

982
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,400
other, all the other players eat.

983
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,960
So but then on the other side, you guys have Van Noy, he's a bad boy.

984
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,000
So somebody we got to stop.

985
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,640
And then if Walker Smith plays, then it's definitely another person we got to definitely

986
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,640
work for too.

987
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,640
So.

988
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Yeah.

989
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,000
Van Noy has been having a great year for the Ravens.

990
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,640
Adolfo always really coming along to been a little inconsistent, but he's had a lot

991
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,320
of great games rushing to pass here.

992
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,440
You know, I mean, your offensive line did a great job against the Rams.

993
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,320
I mean, I was watching that game, you know, in, you know, prep for this episode and I'm

994
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,840
trying to find the weak point on your guys' offensive line.

995
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,120
And it's not easy from your perspective.

996
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:55,880
I mean, where is an area of the Ravens might be able to, to exploit along that line?

997
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,800
If there is one, please say there's one.

998
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,920
I don't, I, you know, the only time I've seen when there's weaknesses is when Kelemore

999
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,800
gets cute and tries to do trick plays and stupid stuff.

1000
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,280
Like, what was it?

1001
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,800
Two games ago when they tried to do this weird flea flicker and then Jenner's got slammed

1002
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,800
in the ground.

1003
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,800
It looked like he was concussed.

1004
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,800
He stayed in the game.

1005
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,320
I can't remember which game that was.

1006
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,000
I think it was the game before the Rams.

1007
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,000
The Washington game.

1008
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Yeah.

1009
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,000
The Washington game.

1010
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120
We got slammed to the turf and it was like, oh, Jalen Hurst doesn't look right.

1011
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,120
Yeah.

1012
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,120
He looks concussed.

1013
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,120
He looks like a customer.

1014
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,120
Like the first half of the game.

1015
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,120
He didn't look right.

1016
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Um, or sometimes we're in Kelemore, did the stupid shovel pass to Goddard against the

1017
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,800
Rams in the, in the red zone.

1018
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,800
Like, don't stop.

1019
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,040
Don't do stuff like that.

1020
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,040
We're like, we're not patching my homes.

1021
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,860
Like just don't do that.

1022
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:49,120
Like play Eagles football.

1023
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:56,200
Um, I personally don't see a weakness, but I'm also an Eagles fan, so, you know, I'm

1024
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,200
not objective.

1025
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Um,

1026
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,400
I don't know, man, I don't know.

1027
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,780
I mean, you guys are cooking.

1028
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:05,200
You got this good defense.

1029
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:11,520
I think to myself, when I'm looking at this matchup of my only hope, frankly, is like,

1030
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,800
okay, I think the Rams are a good team too.

1031
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,560
And like, I remember Philly struggling last year, which isn't a good thing to hold onto.

1032
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,160
Like, it's not like this is a whole different season, a whole different amount of personnel

1033
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,160
over here.

1034
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,500
Like, well, they, they did falter, you know, they might be, they might forget them, but

1035
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,540
I'm thinking to myself, man, this is going to be a close game.

1036
00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:30,540
It's going to be a tight game.

1037
00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:34,540
They're not going to have our defense in, you know, like you said, in peril, like they're

1038
00:57:34,540 --> 00:57:36,180
not going to know what to do.

1039
00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:40,340
Um, this is, this is going to be a hard nose football game, man, for both sides, frankly.

1040
00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:45,180
I mean, it, this is, if you want to say, you know, meet your maker, meet your match, you

1041
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:46,460
know, look in the mirror.

1042
00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:47,900
This is the team in the NFL.

1043
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,340
That's the closest look in the mirror.

1044
00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:52,340
And I am, uh, I'm very excited for it.

1045
00:57:52,340 --> 00:57:54,820
I think it's gonna be a really good game, but man, I have no clue how it's going to

1046
00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:55,820
play out.

1047
00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:58,620
I think it's going to, if I had to guess, I think defense is going to be maybe wiped

1048
00:57:58,620 --> 00:58:01,500
off, you know, like, and it doesn't really matter.

1049
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:03,780
I think both teams are going to be able to score and it's going to be a little bit of

1050
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:06,100
a race, you know, and it's going to come down to turnovers.

1051
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:09,400
It's going to come down to those kinds of like game changing plays.

1052
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,700
Uh, cause I could, I could definitely say just going back and forth.

1053
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:17,900
I think this is going to be the hardest game for the Eagles, um, because the Steelers,

1054
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:21,780
they're pretty good, but the offense, I think the Eagles match up better with the Steelers.

1055
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:22,780
Um, they're just frauds, man.

1056
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:23,780
You can just say it.

1057
00:58:23,780 --> 00:58:30,260
I just don't, I just really don't like the offense they're running.

1058
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:33,900
It's just, it's, it's like feast or famine.

1059
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:34,900
Sometimes you're like, Oh, it looks great.

1060
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:39,140
You know, other times you're like, Ooh, uh, especially against the Browns and the Browns

1061
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:40,140
always beat them.

1062
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:41,140
It's so weird.

1063
00:58:41,140 --> 00:58:42,140
It's so weird.

1064
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:48,740
Um, but yeah, man, all we need to say, all we need to say about the Steelers offense

1065
00:58:48,740 --> 00:58:54,420
is that one of the worst secondaries in Baltimore Ravens history, uh, shut them out of the end

1066
00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:55,420
zone.

1067
00:58:55,420 --> 00:58:56,420
That's all we have to say about it.

1068
00:58:56,420 --> 00:58:57,420
That's the whole story.

1069
00:58:57,420 --> 00:58:58,420
That's true.

1070
00:58:58,420 --> 00:58:59,420
That's true.

1071
00:58:59,420 --> 00:59:00,420
That's true.

1072
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:01,420
That's true.

1073
00:59:01,420 --> 00:59:05,940
Like they always, they kick was it six field goals, six field goals.

1074
00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:06,940
Yep.

1075
00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:07,940
Yeah.

1076
00:59:07,940 --> 00:59:10,160
So like the worst good team of the last decade.

1077
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,160
It's just ridiculous.

1078
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,160
Yeah.

1079
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,700
Well the defense is, there's really good.

1080
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:15,420
It's really, their defense is really good.

1081
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:16,420
Yeah.

1082
00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:17,420
Their defense is not a joke.

1083
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:18,420
Yeah.

1084
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:19,420
Yeah.

1085
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:20,420
It's a real deal.

1086
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:21,420
It's just like they don't, they don't score.

1087
00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:24,860
And I, as I checked, you have to score to win the game, but basically we're just enough,

1088
00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:26,380
you know, every single time just enough.

1089
00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:27,380
Yeah.

1090
00:59:27,380 --> 00:59:28,380
It's crazy.

1091
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:29,380
It's nuts.

1092
00:59:29,380 --> 00:59:30,380
Yeah.

1093
00:59:30,380 --> 00:59:31,380
But, um, yeah.

1094
00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:32,380
Yeah.

1095
00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:33,380
Totally excited for this game, man.

1096
00:59:33,380 --> 00:59:34,380
It's going to be fun.

1097
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:37,140
Uh, but yeah, like I said, I think it's going to be the hardest game on the schedule cause

1098
00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:39,140
it gets a lot easier for the Eagles after this.

1099
00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:45,740
So, um, the only harder game would be Pittsburgh, but then we have to play the commanders Dallas

1100
00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:47,820
and the giants.

1101
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:51,340
So those, those divisional games, the record doesn't matter.

1102
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:52,340
Yeah.

1103
00:59:52,340 --> 00:59:53,340
It's true.

1104
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:54,340
Yeah.

1105
00:59:54,340 --> 01:00:01,580
So I guess, uh, let's say, do we have any other questions we asked him before a scoreable

1106
01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:02,580
predictions?

1107
01:00:02,580 --> 01:00:07,780
Man, Phil, I know you're, are you, I know you're, you're Maryland, but you're a Philly

1108
01:00:07,780 --> 01:00:08,780
fan.

1109
01:00:08,780 --> 01:00:12,140
Uh, I've never asked you this before, crab cakes or cheesesteak?

1110
01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:13,140
Crab cakes.

1111
01:00:13,140 --> 01:00:14,140
That's easy.

1112
01:00:14,140 --> 01:00:15,140
There we go.

1113
01:00:15,140 --> 01:00:16,140
And I'll agree on that.

1114
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:17,140
That's easy.

1115
01:00:17,140 --> 01:00:18,140
Oh man.

1116
01:00:18,140 --> 01:00:19,140
The cheesesteak is like one of my favorite things.

1117
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:27,300
I probably eat more cheesesteaks and I eat crabs before, uh, you know, cheese cheesesteaks

1118
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:31,300
are an elite food, man, but I mean, crab cakes, crab cakes, even above that.

1119
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:32,300
Yeah, exactly.

1120
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:33,300
It's not even, it's not even close.

1121
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:34,300
You can get a good cheesesteak.

1122
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:35,300
It doesn't have to be in Philly to be honest.

1123
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:36,300
You can get a good cheesesteak anywhere.

1124
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:37,300
I know it's blasphemous to say people are Philly, but I don't care.

1125
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:38,300
You get like a good, if you have a good chef, you're right.

1126
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:39,300
You're good.

1127
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:53,120
Nice. That's true. All right, man. Well, as our guests, do you want to lay out a score

1128
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,360
and a bowl prediction first? I'll give you this. Apparently the Ravens are favored by

1129
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:03,080
three points. You can also defer as the guests. You can defer. You don't have to go first.

1130
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:10,780
I mean, cause, uh, you know, also as a Maryland, uh, you know, got a man from the DMV, I still

1131
01:01:10,780 --> 01:01:16,400
have love for the Ravens. I feel bad. It's like, uh, kind of like going against them.

1132
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:24,520
But, uh, I just, I really think that the Eagles might eat, get out. Um, but I'm going to maybe

1133
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:31,060
like 20, 28 to 27, something weird like that. Maybe a real close game. I make close to like,

1134
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:36,500
like the, like the Bengals or Ravens game. Um, but I'm just not sure, man. Cause it's

1135
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:43,900
just the, so it's, the teams are so similar. Um, that's, that's what I'll say. 28, 27.

1136
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:56,460
Cause it's yeah. That's what I'm going to say. No. And you got a bold prediction, something

1137
01:01:56,460 --> 01:02:03,880
you think will happen? Oh, it's fine. We never hit ours. I don't think we had one bold prediction

1138
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,920
hit this year. Maybe, maybe Quinion Mitchell gets his first pick. Nobody's throwing his

1139
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:13,340
direction, so he might not even get it, but maybe he gets his first pick this time. This,

1140
01:02:13,340 --> 01:02:22,440
this game is zero. So, but he's been shutting down every wide receiver, uh, all the games

1141
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,000
he's played is I think the most we are, she's gotten on. Somebody's gotten on. It was like

1142
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:34,280
30 other than that, it's been two catches, 10 yards, one catch or the McLaurin zero,

1143
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:41,640
uh, zero targets, zero yards. So hopefully he gets, I don't know. Hopefully for him,

1144
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:47,160
he gets his first pick in the NFL when I'm still like blown away. We allowed this. So

1145
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,920
the answer, Peter, is that I have one. Chris has one. You have none, but Chris man, his

1146
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,120
full prediction was against the Cowboys at Henry would have a hundred all purpose yards.

1147
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:05,400
That is funny that we said that in retrospect was like, okay, you know, and I guess assuming

1148
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,800
the Cowboys didn't have the most porous run defense on the planet as we've come to find

1149
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,120
out. So that's just kind of funny. And then mine, I got the Andrews and Bateman touchdown

1150
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,600
against the Buccaneers, but man, you're right, dude, we've been struggling and it's not,

1151
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,640
it's not necessarily our fault. I think we get close a lot of times. It just doesn't

1152
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,640
quite happen. Like you had the Zeke career game, you were just off, you missed it by

1153
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,600
like four yards and you missed it. Well, and then he, he broke the number I said the next

1154
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,160
week. Yeah. And like multiple times in a row, he's been having like a hit up a good streak

1155
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:39,240
there. So yeah, man, we're just, uh, sometimes we're just a little too soon. Little forward

1156
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:46,480
thinking. So who wants to go next? I'll go with my bowl prediction next. I can do that.

1157
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,320
So, you know, we're talking about how the Eagles defense has really been shutting down

1158
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:56,760
wide receivers and, you know, they're also really good against the run, but you know,

1159
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,760
what has that been leaving a lot of offenses doing against them? They've been thrown into

1160
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,760
the running back slot, been thrown into the tight ends a lot. I think that in this game,

1161
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:12,480
we're going to see a lot of, of Justice Hill. And I think we're going to get here a throwback

1162
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,840
game from Mark Andrews and I'm going to put him, you know, for a hundred plus. I think

1163
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,200
that that, you know, it reminds me, there was that playoff game back in 2011. So Todd

1164
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,120
heap, you know, after his injuries started when Flacco was a rookie, he started getting

1165
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,880
phased in and out of the offense. Um, sort of what like Andrews is doing right here,

1166
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,160
you know, not as much, but Andrews doesn't have as big a role as he had in previous years,

1167
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,880
but there was that, that playoff game against Kansas city. They just fed the ball to heap.

1168
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,880
He had 10 catches for 108 yards out of nowhere. I think we might see the same thing here with

1169
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Mark Andrews. I think that could work really well for the Ravens. As far as this game goes,

1170
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,480
I think what it's going to come down to, it might come down to the kickers. Both kickers

1171
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,700
have struggled a bit this year. Um, you know, that's, that could be a factor that could

1172
01:04:56,700 --> 01:05:01,320
come into this game. But one thing that really does concern me is the Ravens have played

1173
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,680
a couple of games this year against some strong defenses and the offense just hasn't been

1174
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:11,280
it. Um, you know, Cleveland had started the spark too late, uh, against Pittsburgh, you

1175
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:16,800
know, Lamar played well, but no one else did. Um, and I'm a little concerned here that

1176
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,520
the Ravens going up against a strong defense plus a strong offense. They haven't faced

1177
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,160
that this year. They haven't faced that this year. So I am going to pick the Eagles to

1178
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,640
win 34 to 28 and I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I am very concerned about

1179
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:35,520
this game and hopefully the improvements we've seen in the secondary the past two weeks with

1180
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:46,720
the change in personnel, um, are able to limit the, the Eagles, um, offensive bit.

1181
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:54,760
I guess I can go. Uh, I feel very similar to you, Peter. Um, I'm, I would very easily

1182
01:05:54,760 --> 01:06:00,360
choose the Eagles to win this game. Um, in a world where I don't always pick the Ravens.

1183
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:05,840
Um, but I think the, the rationale I'm going to have for picking the Ravens in this game

1184
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,080
is that is a home game that granted it's just down 95, right? But I think that matters a

1185
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:15,960
bit. And, and I think the reason it's going to matter is I remember what it was like when

1186
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,500
we played, uh, since then, just a couple of weeks ago. And that was, that was a really

1187
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:23,080
electric crowd. The crowd was really into it. I granted it was a night game and all

1188
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:27,240
that good stuff, but I have a feeling that the crowd is, is going to come for this one

1189
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:32,920
too. And if we even have a, a hint of Philadelphia fans and we know we will, right, we know they'll

1190
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,680
travel. I think it's going to just like breed even more intensity. I think it's going to

1191
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,600
be an electric atmosphere. So I think, I think we're all going to be fighting to show who's

1192
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,480
like, you know, the bigger fans and like who can yell the loudest. So there's going to

1193
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,280
be some home field action going on here. And I think it's going to be close. Like you said,

1194
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,120
I think it's going to come down to three points. I think it's going to be a push. It's a three

1195
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:59,120
point spread. I'm going to, I'm going to say it's a 31 to 28 Ravens, but it's going to

1196
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,080
be, it's going to be tight and it easily could go the wrong way. I, I, I think unfortunately

1197
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,360
the Ravens win by a little or they lose bad is kind of where I'm at. Um, I will say that

1198
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,120
too. I mean, I am, I am, this is the, that could be the first time in a long time the

1199
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:23,680
Ravens could lose by, you know, double digits. I think we got to go back to 2022. The, um,

1200
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,800
that Thursday night game against Miami was the last time the Ravens played a game where

1201
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:33,040
Lamar Jackson started and played the whole game and they lost by, you know, multiple

1202
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,920
scores. And this is a game that could go that way. I'm not saying it will cause the Ravens

1203
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:43,440
can win this game too, but there's a real chance here that the Eagles could win it big.

1204
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,840
Yeah. And then for my, uh, bold prediction, I'm going to say 300 yards between Saquon

1205
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:55,000
and, uh, and Henry sheesh. Yeah. Which is, which is a lot. Cause like apparently our

1206
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,360
run defense is pretty good. It's one thing we've been able to do, but I think, uh, I

1207
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,520
think we're going to just, both teams are going to try to bludgeon the ball.

1208
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Man. Oh man. I never thought I'd be in this position guys where, uh, I have to be the

1209
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:16,240
one to be the, uh, the Homer here, but I feel like I'm obligated to now that we've, we've

1210
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,760
had three, uh, you know, three people talk about how the Eagles are going to win or just

1211
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,960
like being scared that they're going to win. So, um, I, I can't say that I have like any

1212
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,600
good data behind this or anything, but I mean, I guess I'll just say that like the home record

1213
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,360
has been pretty good. I mean, you know, you leave out the game against the Raiders. It

1214
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,460
was an anomaly. It was really weird. Uh, we didn't really understand it. Uh, but the last

1215
01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:42,040
couple of home games have been pretty good. Ravens have played pretty well at home. Uh,

1216
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,360
Peter, I do think you're right. Like they've struggled a little bit against some teams

1217
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,840
that have good defenses, but then you could point to the Broncos and you know, they were

1218
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,680
really good. Um, score 41 on that team. And then I look at the games against the Bengals

1219
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,840
and like, you know, even though the defense wasn't really doing a good job, like alarm,

1220
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,960
the office could keep up and they could score enough just to win. So, um, I don't feel like

1221
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:10,480
this is going to be a blowout in it by any stretch. Um, but I am also looking at, again,

1222
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:14,480
like I kind of think of it, I like to like home crowd. Like I do feel like there's something

1223
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:17,600
there, like even against the bills earlier this season, like that was a game we thought

1224
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,680
was going to be really close. And you know, they ended up doing a lot in that game too.

1225
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,320
So not same circumstances, obviously it's much later in the season, but I feel like,

1226
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,520
you know, I, I feel like the energy is good right now. Like I think that they can eat

1227
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,440
it out. So I feel like I feel maybe a little bit too confident about it, but I'll say that

1228
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:38,400
they'll, I'll say that they could do it. Um, I definitely think, don't think it's going

1229
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,200
to be a blowout though. Um, I'm thinking, yeah, the Eagles maybe score somewhere in

1230
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:55,840
like the twenties. So maybe we'll say like, maybe we'll say like 34, like 34, 34, 26 to

1231
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:11,640
a 34, 26 Ravens. Um, and then bold prediction, uh, bold prediction, bold prediction. Oh man.

1232
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:19,360
Um, Roquan comes back and, uh, gets a pick. He's the only linebacker I think with a pick

1233
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:25,000
this year. One in like week two or something like that. So maybe he comes back and it makes

1234
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,080
a big play for the, for the defense.

1235
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:37,800
Nice. Jalen hurts one pick since the Eagles by that. That's a week, five, five. Yeah.

1236
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:44,120
Thank God. And I looked it up, looked it up, you know, to, to combat the, the Doomer takes

1237
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:49,240
we're bringing in here of saying there's the possibility for the big loss. Um, I was one

1238
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:56,800
year, one year off, 2021 week. 10 was the Miami game though. 22 to 10. That's the most

1239
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:02,600
recent game. The Ravens have had Lamar Jackson start and finish a game and lost by double

1240
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:12,960
digits. Yeah, I believe it, man. He's like what they call good. So I'll keep you in games.

1241
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:19,760
That's for sure, dude. He's good. Lamar versus Hertz. Henry versus Saquon. Yeah. Crab cakes

1242
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:28,680
versus cheesesteaks. It's going to be great. I feel like, I feel like Marshall's, uh, sliders

1243
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,200
are not Marshall Walker sliders are going to be like controversial, you know, cause

1244
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,720
they're closer to cheesesteak than they are, uh, you know, anything we have to have a conversation

1245
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:43,600
about this. Yeah. These are the important discussions that are gripping the nation.

1246
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:51,880
Phil, man. So good to talk to you. Good. So good to see you. I think I missed you at the,

1247
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,800
the last, uh, hang, but, uh, definitely, uh, hope to see you sometime soon. It's always

1248
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,320
good talking to you. Hey, no worries, man. Hopefully I'll see you guys. See you soon

1249
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:05,860
too, man. So I guess with that, we'll wrap up the show. You can follow us at blue sky

1250
01:12:05,860 --> 01:12:12,540
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1251
01:12:12,540 --> 01:12:16,640
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1252
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,720
is pointing up. Look at us. So go Ravens. We'll talk to you next week.

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